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Is Trump undermining his own immigration policy? | NonZero World feat. Francisco Rodriguez

Robert Wright's Nonzero

Nonzero

News & Politics, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.7618 Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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0:30 Headlines 4:57 Trump's sanctions dilemma: Migration crackdown vs. regime change 6:23 How sanctions helped trigger Venezuela’s economic collapse 9:58 The power of 'secondary sanctions' 14:17 How sanctions drove inflation, hunger, and state failure 19:11 From Venezuela to the US: Understanding the migrant wave 21:03 Inside the Trump split: Rubio’s hardline vs. Grenell’s dealmaking 33:16 Francisco: The US needs to be more realistic about Maduro 40:46 The path to restoring democracy in Venezuela

Recorded May 30, 2025.

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0:00.0

You're listening to Non-Zero World.

0:04.0

I'm your host, Connor Eccles.

0:07.0

Each week, I break down the latest developments in U.S. foreign policy and other global news,

0:14.0

and I interview a leading expert or activist.

0:17.0

To gain access to full-length episodes and other exclusive content, become an NZN member today at Robert Wright's Non Zero Newsletter at NONZero.org.

0:30.0

In this episode, AI tries to become a whistleblower and gets labeled a rat. The GOP pushes to get Chinese students out of American universities,

0:39.2

and a leading economist explains how Trump's policy toward Venezuela drives immigration to the U.S.

0:44.4

Welcome to Non Zero World. I'm your host, Connor Eccles.

0:49.8

President Trump, in a sudden about face that reflects tensions within his administration,

0:55.0

chose not to renew a license that allowed Chevron to export Venezuelan oil.

0:59.6

According to the Washington Post, the decision announced just a day after Trump-envoy

1:05.0

Richard Grinnell promised to renew the license, came in response to pressure from Secretary

1:09.7

of State Marco Rubio, and several

1:11.9

Republican lawmakers in Florida, who hoped to oust the Nicholas Maduro regime in Venezuela through

1:17.7

a maximum pressure campaign. Grunnell and Rubio have butted heads since the beginning of the

1:22.7

current administration over Grunel's desire to seek detente with Maduro, according to the Washington Post.

1:29.3

Secretary Rubio said the Trump administration will, quote, aggressively revoke visas for Chinese students,

1:35.7

adding that this would particularly focus on those with connections to the Chinese Communist Party

1:40.6

or who study in quote-unquote critical fields. Rubio's short, vague statement on the topic will likely spread anxiety among America's

1:49.1

275,000 Chinese students, the New York Times reports.

1:53.1

The move comes as Trump tries to ban Harvard from enrolling foreign students altogether,

1:58.1

citing, among other things, its links to people and institutions that

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