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The News Agents

Is Trump still running scared of the Epstein files?

The News Agents

Global

News, Daily News, Politics, Government

4.15.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2026

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

You might not know the name Thomas Massie. But you will know what he did. The Kentucky Republican congressman was one crucial part of the campaign that forced Trump to release the Epstein files last November. Last night, he lost his chance to fight his seat again - against a challenger endorsed by Trump. Is Trump still worrying about Epstein? Or does he just hate dissent? And why did he take Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth out of an actual war with Iran to make him campaign in Kentucky? This does not feel normal.

Later, is democracy being killed by the rich? Lewis speaks to Jeffrey Winters.

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0:00.0

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0:05.0

Thomas Massey, who's been in Congress for 14 years.

0:08.0

If the legislative branch always vote,

0:11.0

which votes whichever way the wind is blowing, then we have mob rule.

0:16.0

Trump basically launched a personal vendetta,

0:19.0

branding Massey a moron, a nut job, a loser. On one level,

0:24.2

what this shows you is that Trump still has a very firm grip on his party. But on the other hand,

0:30.2

you are starting to see something emerge, which is no dissent, no guardrails, no voices.

0:37.3

If you disagree with the president, you're out.

0:40.7

Today is the six-month anniversary of the Epstein-Files Transparency Act.

0:45.0

We've taken out two dozen CEOs, an ambassador of Prince, a prime minister, a minister of culture.

0:59.0

And that was just six months.

1:03.0

I got seven months left in Congress.

1:10.0

That is Republican Congressman Thomas Massey, someone who has led the charge for the release and publication of the Jetfree Epstein files.

1:22.0

He has just lost a fight to retain his seat in Congress because he lost the support of Donald Trump.

1:29.0

He has been a troublemaker for Trump over the last year or so, and this is clearly how it

1:36.8

ends. Does this mean that Trump has a grip on the party like never before, or does it

1:43.4

mean he's still terrified of Epstein?

1:46.6

Welcome to the news agents.

1:52.8

The Newsagents.

1:55.7

It's Lewis. It's Maitless.

1:57.8

And as you heard there, Thomas Massey, who's been in Congress for 14 years, as Emily was saying, he has been, he's not been the only person, but he has been absolutely instrumental in those Epstein files being released, the force disclosure through the force of law from the Department of Justice, something that Donald Trump never wanted to happen.

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