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Welcome to Raging Moderates. I'm Jessica Tarlov, and I'm so excited to be joined today by historian Tim Snyder, leading scholar of European history and authoritarianism, and author of On Tyranny, 20 lessons from the 20th century.

Tim, it's so nice to have you.

Very glad to be with you.

It's perfect timing. I mean, we want to talk about present stuff, but there's so much of what's going on these days that I feel like if you're not grounded in the history of it, you're going to totally miss the real reality, which I feel like the administration is trying to hide from us. So, in today's episode of Raging Moderates, we're going to talk about what history can teach us about Trump's war in Iran and what the Texas primary might be signaling for the midterms ahead.

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We're five days a week now. It's very exciting. Let's get right into it. Trump built his brand opposing these regime change wars.

Very proud of the fact that he opposed the Iraq war, actually, though I think he liked it before he

opposed it. But either way, he's been mocking democracy building and promising America first.

And yet now, after U.S. strikes in Iran and open calls for Iranians to overthrow their government,

he is the fourth American president in the past century to frame military force as a mission of liberation.

I want to start off by just asking you, what does history tell us about what happens next?

Yeah, I mean, before I get to that, I just want to say it's very hard when talking about this

not to make it more coherent than it is. So you've just presented a fairly coherent description of what Trump thinks that he's doing, right?

And sometimes he says that, and then sometimes he says other things, right?

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