There is so much to talk about with former President Trump's recent comments on abortion.

I get some of his pro-choice talking points. He seemed to even like intimate that he was gonna support expanding abortion in Florida

and there's a lot of in-house fighting right now in the conservative movement

about do you be too vocal against Trump do you hold his feet to the fire regarding the unborn?

Because Kamala Harris is such a threat

to American liberties and freedom

and the pro-life movement

that you might create voter hesitancy

and maybe you should just shut up.

What does it mean to be pragmatic but wise right now,

given the importance of this election in November, right?

What's the best political strategy moving forward? What was the strategy, decades ago, from evangelical pro-life voters to throw their weight around to win elections for the cause of liberty and life of the unborn.

We cover all of these questions with my brother and friend Jason Storms, who's also the president

of Operation Save America,

a wonderful pro-life ministry

that has a rich heritage of Christian resistance,

which is what we're all about here at the White Rose Resistance

and the Seth Gruber show.

I know that there's a lot of confusion right now

at the Republican National Committee level, the GOP,

the importance of defeating Kamala Harris,

but being faithful to the cause of life, there's a lot of questions

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