Is Trump deporting record numbers of migrants?
Americast
BBC
4.2 • 2.8K Ratings
🗓️ 4 July 2025
⏱️ 38 minutes
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Summary
On the campaign trail, Donald Trump promised to target illegal immigrants that were the ‘worst of the worst’ with strict deportation enforcements. Six months into his second term, the US president has ramped up his battle over so-called 'sanctuary cities' by taking legal action against Los Angeles, and other Democratic cities. Trump says the Democrats are harbouring “millions of illegal aliens” by creating sanctuary cities which don’t need to co-operate with ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement).
Justin and Anthony discuss the upcoming fight between Donald Trump and these cities, and assess how achievable his promise is to carry out the largest deportation programme in American history.
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:04.8 | Away from the big, beautiful bill, the Trump administration has ramped up another war this week. |
| 0:09.9 | They are suing one of America's biggest, so-called sanctuary cities, Los Angeles. |
| 0:14.0 | And Los Angeles isn't the only place targeted. |
| 0:16.7 | There have been similar lawsuits against Chicago and plenty of other cities as well. |
| 0:20.3 | They are Democratic Party cities run by the Democrats, |
| 0:25.1 | and they are being deliberately singled out, as Donald Trump himself says. |
| 0:29.4 | Biden allowed 21 million people to come into our country. |
| 0:33.4 | Of that vast numbers of those people, |
| 0:36.7 | were murderers, killers, people from gangs, people from jails, |
| 0:41.1 | they emptied their jails out into the U.S. |
| 0:43.4 | Most of those people are in the cities. |
| 0:45.7 | All blue cities, all Democrat-run cities, |
| 0:49.4 | and they think they're going to use them to vote. |
| 0:51.3 | It's not going to happen. |
| 0:52.6 | In this episode, Trump's war against Sanctuary City, so-called, |
| 0:56.8 | and how achievable is his promise to carry out the largest deportation program |
| 1:01.4 | that America has ever seen. Welcome to AmeriCast. |
| 1:07.3 | AmeriCast from BBC News. |
| 1:10.6 | You're gambling with the lives of millions from BBC News You're gambling with lives of millions of people |
| 1:13.2 | You're gambling with World War III |
| 1:15.4 | President Trump's message is very simple |
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