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The Brian Lehrer Show

Is Trump a Fascist?

The Brian Lehrer Show

WNYC

Politics, News, News Commentary, Wnyc, Radio, Npr, Arts, New, Lerer, Media, Bryan, Nyc, Daily News, York, Public

4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 April 2024

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

As Donald Trump's rhetoric grows increasingly more inflammatory, debate surrounding whether or not to use the label 'fascist' heats up as well. Andrew Marantz, staff writer at The New Yorker and author of Antisocial: Online Extremists, Techno-Utopians, and the Hijacking of the American Conversation (Viking, 2019), discusses his latest piece, which explores whether or not Trump is a fascist, and what that label conceals or reveals about his campaign and his supporters.

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0:00.0

It's the Brian Laird show on WNC.

0:10.0

Good morning everyone. If you haven't heard It's the Brian Laird Show on WNYC.

0:13.3

Good morning everyone.

0:14.4

If you haven't heard yet, the first criminal trial

0:16.5

of Donald Trump will actually begin now

0:19.1

in less than two weeks and right here in New York.

0:22.0

It's the so-called Stormy Daniels Hush Money case, but remember the

0:25.3

alleged crime is not paying the hush money itself. It wasn't a crime to pay the porn

0:31.4

start to stop saying they had an affair.

0:34.0

The alleged crime was falsifying business records to cover up the hush money payments

0:40.0

during the 2016 presidential election.

0:42.0

Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg is charging during the 2016 presidential election.

0:42.6

Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg is charging that Trump basically made an illegal campaign

0:47.6

donation to himself by paying out that money but not reporting it as campaign spending.

0:54.0

Instead, Trump arranged for his attorney, Michael Cohen,

0:57.3

to write the checks to Stormy Daniels

0:59.7

and Trump reimburse Cohen as if for routine business expenses.

1:04.2

So that's the actual case, right?

1:06.4

Jury selection is scheduled to begin two weeks from yesterday,

1:10.1

Monday, April 15th.

1:12.8

But there's now a case within the case that is arguably much more serious than allegedly

1:19.8

hiding campaign spending.

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