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🗓️ 5 August 2025
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Traditional religion in the United States has suffered huge losses in recent decades. The number of Americans identifying as “not religious” has increased remarkably. Religious affiliation, service attendance, and belief in God have declined. More and more people claim to be “spiritual but not religious.” Religious organizations have been reeling from revelations of sexual and financial scandals and cover-ups. Public trust in “organized religion” has declined significantly. Crucially, these religious losses are concentrated among younger generations. This means that, barring unlikely religious revivals among youth, the losses will continue and accelerate in time, as less-religious younger Americans replace older more-religious ones and increasingly fewer American children are raised by religious parents.
All this is clear. But what is less clear is exactly why this is happening. We know a lot more about the fact that traditional American religion has declined than we do about why this is so.
Christian Smith is the William R. Kenan, Jr. Professor of Sociology and Founding Director of the Center for the Study of Religion and Society at the University of Notre Dame. Smith is well known for his research focused on religion, adolescents and emerging adults, and social theory. He has written many books, including Divided by Faith, Soul Searching, and Moral, Believing Animals. His new book is Why Religion Went Obsolete: The Demise of Traditional Faith in America.
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0:00.0 | You're listening to the Michael Sherman Show. |
0:15.8 | Today's episode is on religion, the decline of religion. |
0:20.3 | In fact, before I introduce my guest, let me give you a little bit of background on this. As you know, the decline of religion. In fact, before I introduce my guest, |
0:22.4 | let me give you a little bit of background on this. As you know, I've written several books |
0:25.7 | on this subject. Tracked it myself over the decades. It's a super important and interesting |
0:31.1 | subject. Two months ago, I did a debate in Austin for the free press where Adam Carolla and I debated I in |
0:40.3 | Herssey Alley and Ross Douthit from the New York Times on the subject does the West need a |
0:45.9 | religious revival? |
0:47.5 | My answer was, no, thank you. |
0:49.6 | And that was the end of that for me. |
0:51.6 | But interestingly, IAN, Herssey Alllli made the argument that the West needs religion, |
0:57.9 | particularly Christianity, in order to, as a bulwark against Islamism, crazy, far left, |
1:05.8 | wokeism, and so on. |
1:07.4 | And Rastouth had made a similar argument in that the kind of moral foundations of Western civilization, |
1:14.6 | even broader, is the Judeo-Christian worldview. |
1:18.7 | And without that, there's a God-shaped whole, is kind of the argument they made, |
1:23.1 | that will be filled by something else. |
1:25.7 | And that something else could be, again, Islamism or |
1:28.8 | or crazy woke, far left, progressive politics, or New Age, spiritualism, or whatever. |
1:35.0 | Here to break this all down for us today because this is a scientific question, not just an |
1:40.2 | opinion question. |
1:41.7 | Is my guest Christian Smith? |
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