Is trade school the new comp sci degree?
Seattle Now
KUOW News and Information
4.7 • 668 Ratings
🗓️ 11 November 2025
⏱️ 20 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, I'm Tonvin, host of Seattle Eats, a food podcast from the Seattle Times and K-O-W. |
| 0:06.9 | Seattle Fine Dining Spots are mixing their prefixed menus and going casual. |
| 0:12.3 | But change is a good thing for restaurants and customers. |
| 0:16.5 | On the latest episode, I'll tell you about the high-end menus that are worth hitting. |
| 0:20.8 | Listen to Seattle Eats on the K-W app or wherever you get your podcast. |
| 0:29.6 | Hey, good morning. It's Patricia Murphy. Happy Veterans Day. Thank you to all who've served. We're out |
| 0:40.3 | observing Veterans Day today, but we didn't want to leave your feed empty this morning, so we're |
| 0:45.4 | sharing a recent favorite episode of KUOW's Economy podcast, Booming. For a long time, conventional wisdom for young people said to go to a four-year |
| 0:58.0 | college or learn to code. But in 2025, Seattle, degrees are not an easy on-ramp to starting a |
| 1:05.4 | career, and big tech companies are laying people off by the thousands. That uncertainty is making blue-collar |
| 1:12.6 | work much more popular for young people, and as Monica Nicholsberg and Joshua McNichols |
| 1:18.1 | will tell you, trade schools are booming. 2,000 men a shift. Three shifts a day. Six thousand men. |
| 1:25.6 | Honest wage in that room. |
| 1:28.3 | Fed their kids, bought homes, made enough to send their kids to college by a second car, |
| 1:34.3 | building something they could see, not just figures on a balance sheet, but a ship. |
| 1:39.3 | They could see, smell, and touch. |
| 1:42.3 | Those men knew their worth. So, Monica, in our reporting on AI, one thing comes up a lot. |
| 1:50.9 | When you ask tech executives about AI's potential to replace jobs, they often say something like, |
| 1:56.9 | there will always be jobs in the trades. Yeah, it's exactly what Microsoft Brad Smith said to me a few months ago when I asked about this, |
| 2:04.1 | that, hey, there's always opportunities for people who want to be electricians or plumbers. |
| 2:08.4 | It makes me wonder, are young people who are just starting their careers getting this message? |
| 2:13.9 | I think they are. |
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