point, it's all like a trade-off curve, right?

And Celeste is optimizing for a certain thing.

Ethereum optimizes for a different thing.

And again, also the tie back.

And that's why they're not commodities because they're

they're just going to be very different it's like the theory and

block space is going to be different than the celestial block space because they make

different choices they're optimized for different things. I think that like

Celestial just has a different philosophy and that results in different design.

Welcome to Bankless where we explore the frontier of internet money and internet finance. And today we explore the frontier of Celestia and the roll-up landscape that it wants to bring into the crypto universe.

Bankless Nation, there is a paper-thin wall between the design of

Ethereum and the design of Celestial. These two networks are both designing for very similar outcomes. It's

often discussed that Ethereum and Solana are the biggest competitors out there

but I actually think the reason why these two networks are positioned as big competitors is because the design

philosophies of Ethereum and Salana are just completely opposed to each other. I suggest to you,

bankless listener, that it's actually Celestial

that is the real competition to Ethereum, because it's made the same choices,

optimizing for the same outcome, but with just some few key differences that we're going to unpack here on the show today.

Perhaps this is also why there is a much more friendly relationship between these two ecosystems

between Celessia and Ethereum because despite being more meaningful competitors,

our values are the same.

So personally speaking, if Celestialia won the Game of Thrones in crypto, I would actually

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