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Is This Schism or Something Else? - Episcopal Consecrations #6

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🗓️ 4 May 2026

⏱️ 92 minutes

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Today in The Episcopal Consecrations, we confront one of the most serious objections: would consecrating bishops without papal mandate create a schism? Fr. Loop examines this claim head-on, responding to arguments from Church authorities and theologians who say such an act necessarily breaks unity with Rome. What is schism, properly understood? Does episcopal consecration itself confer jurisdiction—or can the power of orders be separated from governance? And how do we distinguish disobedience from a true rupture with the Church? This episode moves to the heart of the debate, arguing that, in a state of necessity, such consecrations need not be schismatic. We’d love your feedback on this series! podcast@sspx.org

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Today on the Episcopal Consecration series, would consecrating bishops without Rome create a schism?

0:14.0

Father Loop answers this most serious question head on.

0:18.0

With respect to the third objection, basically are doing the same thing,

0:22.7

we're withdrawing from the legitimate authority of the Pope and basically doing the same thing

0:26.6

as the Patriotic Church in China, the parallel is absurd on this face. We're not opposing

0:31.4

current diocese and bishops and claiming that all Catholics are bound and conscious to submit

0:35.6

to the jurisdictions of the bishops we've created. Absolutely, it is just not at all parallel.

0:40.3

I'd like to go so far as to think that I may well owe my conversion to the faith,

0:45.3

to the only true church that are Lord founded, in some measure of Archbishop Lefebv.

0:50.3

We are ready to remain faithful to our Lord Jesus Christ.

1:00.4

Even if that means we will have to suffer the false accusations of schism and disobedience.

1:03.7

Father Luke, very good to have you with us.

1:09.6

And we're talking about schism today, not a, not a light topic by any means.

1:11.6

None of this has been very light. It's all been very serious.

1:13.6

But just to kind of give our listeners a recap if you're just joining us for this episode,

1:17.6

or you haven't seen or listened to the last few, the last few episodes with Father

1:24.1

Robinson, we talked about the principles of the state of necessity.

1:26.6

Like what is a state of necessity? And then with Father Sherry, we talked about the principles of the state of necessity. Like, what is a state of necessity?

1:28.7

And then with Father Sherry, we talked about doctrinally in the church.

1:31.7

There is one.

1:32.6

Father Wiseman last week was talking about there is a state of necessity with liturgy.

1:37.1

We went kind of long, but very detailed on that whole issue.

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