meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Consider This from NPR

'Is this really happening?' National Guard Members on Trump Deployments

Consider This from NPR

NPR

Society & Culture, News, Daily News, News Commentary

4.15.3K Ratings

🗓️ 13 November 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

A group of National Guard members in Ohio are using an encrypted group chat to work out how they're feeling as President Trump deploys Guard troops to several U.S. cities.


It’s become a place for existential questions about their service, careers…and country. 

NPR’s Kat Lonsdorf flew to Ohio to meet some of them.

For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org. Email us at [email protected].

This episode was produced by Vincent Acovino, Erika Ryan, and Connor Donevan with audio engineering by Simon-Laslo Janssen. It was edited by Alina Hartounian and Courtney Dorning. Our executive producer is Sami Yenigun.

Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices

NPR Privacy Policy

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Outside a metro station in Washington, D.C., a couple months back, a commuter walked up to two

0:05.5

National Guardsmen and handed them a business card with a handwritten note on the back.

0:09.7

Thank you for your service to our country and please remember your oath to the Constitution

0:15.1

as well as your duty to disobey illegal orders.

0:18.8

Steve Walsh captured that scene for NPR.

0:21.2

He's a military and veterans reporter for W.HRO in Norfolk, Virginia.

0:25.6

He was in Washington to see how members of the Guard felt about their deployment to the Capitol.

0:30.5

We aren't using their names because they weren't authorized to speak publicly.

0:33.7

I think there was a misunderstanding of why we were here.

0:40.1

People were assuming the worst case scenario. And now that we've kind of settled in our role, what we do here, I think people

0:45.4

are finally understanding that we are here to help. National Guard troops are still in D.C.

0:50.0

Three months since President Trump declared a state of emergency. Troops from around the country are patrolling the national mall and metro stations,

0:57.9

and also doing landscaping and litter pickup.

1:01.0

Not everyone in D.C. feels they're helping, though.

1:04.2

Some troops have been met with protests and bullhorns.

1:07.3

One resident followed around guard members on patrol and played the Imperial March from Star Wars.

1:16.7

On one occasion, he was handcuffed by D.C. police and is now suing for alleged First and Fourth

1:22.8

Amendment rights violations. The National Guard, like the rest of the U.S. military, is traditionally nonpartisan.

1:30.2

The current commander-in-chief is stress testing that principle.

1:33.7

In a speech to top military officers in September, the president said American cities could

1:38.6

be training grounds for our military.

1:41.2

It seems that the ones that are run by the radical left Democrats, what they've done to

...

Transcript will be available on the free plan in 8 days. Upgrade to see the full transcript now.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from NPR, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of NPR and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.