All right. Some of these chatbots are too literal. Do you know what I mean? So the other day, I'm on YouTube and I'm watching videos from the Outside Lans Festival that we just had here in San Francisco.

Great Music Festival. And I was watching the set by the band Role Model. And they do this thing when they perform their hit song, Sally, When the Wine Runs runs out where they bring in kind of a special guest to dance. Okay. This is like something that you'll see it on YouTube if you look, right? And this guy runs out on stage and I think, is that the pop star choice of on? Because I thought it was the pop star choice of on, but it was sort of, you know, very quick and he's, you know, spinning around didn't, like, get a good look at him, so I thought, I'm just going to ask Chat GPT about this. So I said, hey, did Troy Savon come out during role model set at Outside Lands? And you know what it said? What? Nope. Trois Avon did not come out during role model set at Outside lands. He had already publicly come out as gay back on August 7, 2013, via a heartfelt YouTube video.

And I was like, that's not what I'm talking about.

And then it said, what happened at Outside Lanz this year was a surprise live appearance.

He hopped outside.

And then it was basically like, yes, he did.

So, anyways, I thought that was a little crazy.

That is crazy.

You know, they're actually building an AI system that can determine when every gay person in the

world has publicly come out. Do you know what they're calling it?

What they're calling it? Gay GI. Oh, man. That's great. That's great. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm sorry for your troubles.

Anyways, congratulations to Troy Savon for coming out both on August 7th, 2013, and August 8th, 2020, 25.

I'll be it in slightly different ways.

I'm Kevin Roos, a tech columnist at the New York Times.

I'm Casey Newton from Platformer.

And this is hard for this week, are we in an AI bubble?

We'll make the case for and against.

Then, journalist Jeff Horwitz joins us to discuss his blockbuster story on how meta-AI was instructed to engage in romantic role play with children.

And finally, I tell Kevin about my favorite new TikTok trend, and it's filthy.

God help me.

Well, Casey, today we are going to talk about a question that has been percolating for a long time,

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