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Is There a Place for Asceticism in the Christian Life?

Ask Pastor John

Desiring God

John Piper, Unknown, 163859, Pastor, Ask, Theology, Desiring God, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

4.83.8K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2022

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Some self-denial exalts self and feeds sin, and some self-denial exalts Christ and kills sin. So how can we practice the right kind?

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0:00.0

I'm happy Friday, everyone.

0:05.4

Well, can we make ourselves more holy if we treat our bodies more harshly?

0:11.3

It's a great question from a listener named Garrett in Houston, Texas.

0:14.7

Pastor John, hello, I've recently been studying the life of St. Anthony

0:17.8

through a book by Athanasius.

0:20.1

I'm curious about your thoughts on asceticism, a practice of many Christians

0:24.0

throughout the church age is this a biblical way to live and pursue holiness.

0:28.1

Does it work?

0:29.1

Is it biblical to hold such a rigid self-discipline?

0:32.2

I ask because of Colossians 2 verse 23, where Paul defines asceticism as

0:37.1

severity to the body and that practice being of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.

0:44.8

So what are your thoughts on the place of asceticism in the Christian life today?

0:49.9

When Garrett says, is it biblical to hold such rigid self-discipline?

0:57.2

I don't know what the word such refers to because I'm not familiar enough with the life of

1:03.5

St. Anthony to pass judgment on his pattern of asceticism.

1:07.7

So let me just speak more generally, especially from the text of Colossians,

1:14.1

because I think that's what he's really getting at.

1:16.1

Is there a legitimate place for severity to the body called asceticism?

1:22.1

Whenever we hear the Apostle Paul criticizing some teaching or warning against some practice,

1:32.9

we have to kind of piece together from what he says, what the false teachers are saying,

1:40.3

like listening to one end of the phone conversation.

1:43.8

That's what we're up against in Colossians.

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