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wb you our podcast boston coaklanders manages a ranch that's been family owned for more than a century.

It's in Wyoming, about a three-hour drive from Yellowstone National Park.

Coexisting with wildlife has always been part of the job and part of his life.

It's pretty damn cool when you're up there, a horseback, in that vast kind of.

It's not all wilderness, but there is some wilderness.

And you can see a grizzly bear in its natural habitat in the lower 48.

But whenever he sees a grizzly, in the back of his head, he's thinking about his cattle.

Coke manages about 400 cows, and he raises their calves and yearlings every year by letting them

graze in the vast public lands around his ranch. Trouble is, for a bear, that calf is a potential

meal.

We have five riders that live up there all summer long that take care of our cattle,

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