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Is the "Woke Right" Really Woke? | OnlySubs with James Lindsay, Ep. 142

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🗓️ 22 November 2024

⏱️ 80 minutes

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This episode of the OnlySubs Podcast with James Lindsay is available for FREE! To get access to all past and future episodes, consider becoming a contributor. Learn more: https://newdiscourses.com/2020/12/announcing-new-subscribers-only-podcast-james-lindsay/ What is the "Woke Right"? Does it really exist? Is it really Woke? If so, how? These are increasingly important questions in our present circumstances as a visibly radicalized Rightism is emerging from within the broader conservative coalition and aiming to distort its aims and values along some new (or new-old) path. In this special long episode of James Lindsay OnlySubs, my subscribers' only podcast, I take you through an essay (https://americanreformer.org/2024/05/is-there-a-woke-right/) about the Woke Right written by someone ostensibly on the Woke Right, C. Jay Engel, published in late May 2024 in American Reformer. Join me to explore the idea that the Woke Right really is Woke (and the Right hand of the Left) through an analysis of one of its members' own words. New book! The Queering of the American Child: https://queeringbook.com/ Support New Discourses: https://newdiscourses.com/support Follow New Discourses on other platforms: https://newdiscourses.com/subscribe Follow James Lindsay: https://linktr.ee/conceptualjames © 2024 New Discourses. All rights reserved. #NewDiscourses #JamesLindsay #Woke

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0:00.0

Hey, everybody. This is James Lindsay, and you are listening to James Lindsay only subs, which is my subscribers

0:21.3

and contributors only podcast.

0:23.4

So thank you for your contributions.

0:25.8

They make a difference.

0:26.8

They keep new discourses going.

0:28.9

That might matter a lot because I'm pretty heavily under attack now.

0:33.6

And the reason I'm under attack, a lot of you know, is because I've been going after the woke

0:37.0

right.

0:38.1

So I thought it would be fun to read an essay by a woke right person who is, of course, denying that the woke right exists.

0:47.7

Now, this is obviously in the time I'm recording this, this is October of 2024.

0:53.4

And I say that because a lot of people

0:56.4

are believing that A, I created the term woke right, and I'm trying to force it B into existence.

1:05.3

And as it turns out, I did not create the term woke right. I came across the term woke

1:10.3

right, and I thought it was an

1:12.7

interesting term. Now, I've done a bullet podcast on what the woke right is. So I'm not going to

1:17.3

elaborate, but the short, short version is that the woke right is that set of people claiming

1:24.8

kind of an ultra conservative set of values that they are then

1:30.2

promoting through what appear to be woke or leftist methods.

1:36.3

Another way that you could see that is that it is, it's like almost a postmodern conservatism

1:43.6

or a post-modern traditionalism where it's a put on.

1:46.8

It's a show.

1:47.6

It's a larp.

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