"Is The West To Blame For Ukraine?" with Eliot A. Cohen
Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps
Josh Szeps
4.5 • 905 Ratings
🗓️ 2 March 2022
⏱️ 71 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Well, I'm out. I'm out of COVID isolation. I'm out, baby. I made it. I did it. I came out the other side. Here I am. In the rain, |
| 0:10.6 | which is what Sydney and much of the east coast of Australia is enduring in ridiculous quantities at the moment. |
| 0:17.5 | This is the thing about Australia. We are either on fire or we're underwater. |
| 0:21.5 | Those are your two options. That's all you get. Maybe an occasional third option is we're being |
| 0:28.1 | eaten by a crocodile or bitten by one of the world's deadliest spiders or snakes, but that's really |
| 0:32.9 | infrequent. What we are not doing is riding to work or school on the back of kangaroos. That's a popular |
| 0:41.4 | misconception. But what we are doing is either self-igniting in an ungodly firestorm or being |
| 0:49.9 | swept away by floodwaters as we currently are. And this is summer, ladies and general persons, |
| 0:55.8 | summer. So my thoughts go out to everyone around Australia if you're being affected, if you're |
| 1:01.2 | home or your livelihood is affected by the floods. I think it's a first world problem for me to |
| 1:08.3 | whinge about being stuck inside in the rain with COVID, |
| 1:11.7 | but allow me to whinge nonetheless, it's my damn show, I'll whinge about what I want. |
| 1:17.0 | It's been interesting having COVID. |
| 1:19.9 | It was mild, very mild, as I hope yours was as well, if you've had it. |
| 1:24.7 | Nonetheless, unpleasant. |
| 1:26.9 | A lot of tiredness, fatigue, grouchiness, grumpiness, |
| 1:31.9 | irritability. Those last three factors might just be my personality, I'm not sure. But the disease |
| 1:39.2 | certainly didn't help. Let's put it that way. I certainly feel like I'm living in a position of enormous privilege |
| 1:47.5 | in comparison to the calamity that's unfolding on the other side of the planet, |
| 1:51.9 | which is going to be the subject of not only this episode, |
| 1:54.8 | but a number of episodes in the near future. |
| 1:59.1 | I'm trying to line up as many interesting voices about Ukraine as I can, |
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