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Daniel and Kelly’s Extraordinary Universe

Is the Universe Fine-tuned for life?

Daniel and Kelly’s Extraordinary Universe

iHeartPodcasts

Astronomy, Physics, Science, Natural Sciences

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 September 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Daniel and Kelly grapple with the implications of arbitrary numbers in our theory, whether they could have had different values, and what it all means.

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0:00.0

This is an IHeart podcast.

0:12.0

Sometimes physics can make you feel a little insignificant.

0:16.2

You know, the Earth isn't the center of the universe.

0:18.5

It's just one of many tiny rocks orbiting countless

0:21.7

suns and zillions of galaxies. And the universe has existed for billions of years before we came

0:28.0

along, happily doing its thing without us. But sometimes physics can also make us feel

0:34.0

quite special. When we look at the laws of nature and the values of its constants,

0:39.1

life seems to depend very strongly on these little details. A tiny tweak here or a change there

0:45.3

and life as we know it would be impossible. Stephen Hawking said, quote, the laws of science,

0:51.7

as we know them at present, contain many fundamental numbers, like the size

0:55.9

of the electric charge of the electron or the ratio of the masses of the proton and the

1:00.0

electron. The remarkable fact is that the values of these numbers seem to have been very finely

1:05.8

adjusted to make possible the development of life." End quote.

1:11.8

Is Hawking right?

1:14.3

Can it physics tell us if we're special?

1:19.5

Can it reveal if the universe seems to have been set up so that life can exist?

1:24.6

Welcome to Daniel and Kelly's extraordinarily important universe.

1:42.8

Hello, I'm Kelly Wienersmith. I study parasites and space, and I'm so glad that the universe is fine-tuned for life, including parasitic life.

1:47.5

Hi, I'm Daniel. I'm a particle physicist. I want to unravel the nature of the universe so we know

1:52.5

who to blame for including parasites in it. You know, we should blame someone for human and livestock and

1:57.7

pet parasites. If I could selectively remove those, I would. Right.

2:01.3

Yeah.

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