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More or Less: Behind the Stats

Is the UK seeing a Christian revival?

More or Less: Behind the Stats

BBC

Business, Mathematics, Science, News Commentary, News

4.63.5K Ratings

🗓️ 2 July 2025

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Tim Harford looks at some of the numbers in the news and in life. This week:

Is church-going making a comeback in the UK?

Is it true that every day, 1000 people begin claiming personal independence payments, or PIP?

When the government talks about how it “returns” illegal immigrants, what does it mean?

Can a new telescope really see golf balls on the moon?

If you’ve seen a number you think looks suspicious, email the More or Less team: [email protected]

More or Less is produced in partnership with the Open University.

Presenter: Tim Harford Producers: Lizzy McNeill, Nicholas Barrett, David Verry Series producer: Tom Colls Production co-ordinator: Brenda Brown Sound mix: Gareth Jones Editor: Richard Vadon

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BBC Sounds, Music, radio podcasts. Hello and welcome to more or less, your weekly guide to the numbers in politics, in religion and in everyday life.

0:45.8

And I'm Tim Harford. This week is churchgoing making a comeback in the UK. How many people have the government sent home because they have no legal right to be here?

0:56.7

Is it really true that every day

0:58.8

a thousand people begin claiming

1:01.1

personal independence payments, or PIP?

1:04.4

Can a spiffy new telescope really see golf balls on the moon?

1:08.1

And have you ever died in a fall?

1:11.7

I know I have.

1:30.2

Tim? But first. Is churchgoing making a comeback in the UK? That seems to be the message from a U-Gov survey for the Bible Society,

1:35.3

a non-profit that works to distribute the Bible, which was published in a report called The Quiet Revival in April. It's been much discussed since.

1:40.9

The survey apparently showed that churchgoing had dramatically increased between 2018, a previous

1:48.2

survey, and 2024. From 8% of people going each week then to 12% now. Or as one Christian publication

1:58.3

put it, church attendance soars 50% as faith surges among British youth.

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