Hello, hello, I'm Hugo Rifkin, and now we're going to be unpacking the politics of the day as Kirsteimber plans for the worst to the transport secretary crashing out and while the soft left for become more hard-edged.

And with me in the studio for a very, very own version of a cobra meeting.

It is Josh Glancy. Hello, Josh. Hello. How you keeping? I'm pretty good. Good to have you here. And Daisy McAndrew, hello, Daisy. Hello, hello. Nice to be back. Welcome. Good to have you here. Let's start off with Rachel Reeves. She has been in the United States. She hasn't held back in a criticism of President Trump's decision to go to war with Iran as global finance leaders continue

to meet in Washington there with her too. The Chancellor said friends can be honest with each other.

She suggested the Iran war has made the world more dangerous. Josh, we'll come to her in a moment

to whether or not she's right. But is she just doing this because she wants them to tweet about her?

Is this a career move? Well, I did, I think I mentioned you the other day, it is starting to become, and I was talking to John Peanut, sorry, I confuse you. We're very similar people. I did say on Times Radio the other day, it started becoming a badge of honour for a European leader to get a Trump tirade because they know how well it plays domestically.

We've seen Maloney get one.

We've seen Stama have a couple.

It is the Mark Carney playbook, basically.

You know, get friends at home by falling out with Trump abroad.

So I do think there's a bit of that.

I think she's also pretty conscious that, you know,

she'll be

getting briefings from the real cobra and others showing how bad things might get in this country

in the next few weeks. So I think she will want to be on record, making the point that her,

this government is not supportive of this war, is not involved in this war.

So I think there's a few things going on.

But Britain and its leaders, people like Rees and Starmer, do need to be quite careful with how far they push this language.

We are almost uniquely exposed to American power and Trumpian caprice.

And therefore, you know, they've got a bit of a delicate balance to play yes it plays well domestically and they have shown that they do have red lines with

Trump but conversely you know you don't want to put intelligent sharing at risk which is still

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