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🗓️ 28 June 2017
⏱️ 18 minutes
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With Jacob Heilbrunn, editor of The National Interest. Presented by Freddy Gray.
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to The Spectator's Americano podcast, a series of discussions about |
0:09.5 | American politics and the Trump presidency in 2017. I'm Freddie Gray and I'm deputy editor |
0:14.8 | of The Spectator. I'm joined today by Jacob Halberin, who is editor of the national interest, |
0:20.0 | and we're talking about whether Donald |
0:21.7 | Trump is totally paralysed at home and abroad. Jacob, Donald Trump, or T, as he now refers to himself |
0:29.4 | on Twitter, suffered quite a dramatic setback yesterday on his health care bill. And it's led a lot of |
0:36.1 | commentators in America to ask, is he actually |
0:39.0 | capable of passing any major legislation or is his presidency completely hamstrung? What do you |
0:45.2 | think? The two are actually different questions. First, is he capable of passing major legislation? |
0:52.5 | The answer is he's got to compile a perfect batting average |
0:55.8 | of zero. He's gotten in comparison to previous modern presidents, his record is nugatory. And what it displays |
1:08.0 | is that when you have a president who is unfamiliar, if not oblivious, |
1:16.2 | to what is in the actual legislation, he is unable to persuade or threaten senators from his |
1:24.4 | own party to support any legislation. |
1:26.9 | That's been a key component in the past, |
1:29.8 | whether there's Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, even Barack Obama. You have to be |
1:35.4 | able to persuade legislators to support your legislation. You have to be able to go out in public, |
1:42.0 | deliver speeches, town hall meetings, hold press conferences, where you can at least |
1:48.5 | display some familiarity with the legislation. Trump has none of that. He, this bill could have |
1:54.6 | contained the very opposite proposals, and he still would have endorsed it. He wanted the spectacle, the theater |
2:04.3 | of signing major legislation, not the substance of it. Now, is he hamstrung? No, he still has a lot |
2:12.1 | of authority obviously in foreign affairs. He can roll back regulations. |
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