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Ask Pastor John

Is the Threat of Eternal Punishment Manipulation?

Ask Pastor John

Desiring God

Christianity, Pastor, John Piper, Theology, Ask, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, Desiring God, 163859, Religion & Spirituality, Questions

4.94.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2015

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

When God threatens punishment for our failure to delight in him, he’s not manipulating us, but showing us the urgency of choosing life and joy in him.

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0:00.0

We have a full week of new episodes scheduled, so let's dive in, Pastor John.

0:09.4

Podcast listener Connor Hodges writes in to ask this, Pastor John, it seems odd to me

0:14.4

that the command of Christ looks like this.

0:17.2

Pursue joy in me or face eternal punishment.

0:22.2

If that was ever the case in this world, it would seem outrageous.

0:26.2

For example, if a husband says to his wife, you better love me above all else or I will

0:30.6

cast you out, then it wouldn't really be true love from the wife if she knew her only

0:35.5

other option is to be cast out.

0:38.2

I know this is wrong thinking, but I'm having a hard time wrestling with this type of analogy.

0:43.3

What would you say to Connor, Pastor John?

0:46.9

I would point out that there are three different, though not separated, issues in what he just

0:56.2

said.

0:57.2

Number one, does the Bible teach that the failure to delight in God results in eternal

1:04.9

punishment?

1:05.9

Number two, if it does, does the analogy of a human husband setting up the same dynamic

1:13.4

with his wife, illumine or cloud that reality?

1:17.9

Third, the way you express the connection between our failure to delight in God and our eternal

1:24.9

losses makes a huge difference in whether the truth can sound acceptable or not.

1:32.5

So those are three huge issues and they got all jumbled together in that question.

1:39.8

So I'm going to take them one at a time because the first one is key.

1:43.4

Number one, does the Bible teach that the failure to delight in God results in eternal punishment?

1:51.7

So let's start with 1 Corinthians 16, 22.

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