Let's go to Moline, Illinois now, talk to Steve.

Good morning, Steve.

Good morning, Patrick.

This is kind of amazing for me.

I've listened to you for about three years now, three and a half years.

I am not a Catholic, but I appreciate what you do, and I appreciate your zeal and your passion.

Thank you. My question is the immortality of the soul.

Is that an assumption?

And I guess I take this for Protestants, too.

Is that an assumption that people make about when man was created, that he was created with an immortal soul,

and even after the fall of Adam, that continued?

Or is it possible?

And the Bible says repeatedly, I believe, that the soul that sin is it shall die,

and that the body can be both, the body and the soul can both be destroyed.

So I'd just like your take on that if I could.

Absolutely.

This is a wonderful question.

I'm glad you asked it because if you listened as long as you have, you know, I enjoy talking about these deeper matters, so thank you.

So it is an assumption, but it's an assumption that's based upon revelation, and also the way in which we can infer certain truths that are implicit in other truths that are explicit.

And I'll come to that in just a minute.

But first, we can say that God created us in Adam and Eve, our first parents, for the purpose

of being in a right relationship with him. And as you know, the story of Genesis, Adam and

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