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So SEC overrated, SEC bad bowl record.

SEC is a conference on the decline.

A million different things being said.

Where's your head with all this right now?

I think the overrated part of it, Josh, would be where do you rate it?

If you still have it at, I don't know, what, 2012, 13-ish, whatever it is, even maybe 2019-ish,

then, yeah, it's going to be overrated compared to that because it's not as dominant as it was

then. Specifically, the teams at the top are not as consistently dominant as that was then. I don't

know if we'll ever see that again from any program in any conference where Alabama was for a long time, then where Georgia came in to be really next to them, Florida with their run, LSU with their run, and then a couple of teams that sort of skyrocketed up, Auburn, Mississippi State, a few others. I don't think you're ever going to get that consistently again. I do think the depth, though, if you're just rating it on Best Conference in America, probably proves that it is that. You could look at the draft every year. I think you look at the venues, the crowds, the capacity, those kind of things all make it one of the most difficult conferences to play in, regardless of what your record is or who you have on your team.

And the coaching prowess, too, I think elevates it. But does it have that, has it lapped the Big Ten and some of the other conferences, like maybe it once did, like we talked about for a while? No, it's just not there anymore. I think if you just wanted to say that, just say it in week three. I'm not talking to you. I'm talking to anyone who they make what could be a good argument, but there are so many bad faith counter arguments. It's not bad faith counterargues. They're like bad faith ammunition to the argument. One of them's always been bowl record. Now, to be very, very clear, like when I was doing radio down in Columbus, there was a year where the SEC just

dominated bowl season. I can't remember what it was. It was like nine and one or something like that. It would have been in like the mid-20 teens. So some dude calls us up. It says, told you all the SEC was the best in the country. Look at their bowl record. And I said, no, man, the SEC is either the best in the country or it's not, but the bull record is not the end-all-b-all.

And this was before opt-outs.

This was when bull records. No, man, the SEC is either the best in the country or it's not, but the Bull record is not the end-all-b-all.

And this was before opt-outs. This was when Bull Records probably had more meaning than they do right now.

But even back then, my stance on using bowl records to provide a definitive answer as to relative conference strength has always been that it's stupid.

It's completely stupid, whether it supports

or negates my argument as to who I think's best. The only time bowl season would have ever told me

anything about conference versus conference is if we were to have the Bulls take SEC 1 versus

ACC 1, Big 126 versus Big 106, and nobody opts out.

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