Hello and welcome to Not Another One, the podcast with me, Steve Richards, Ian Martin, Tim Montgomery and Miranda Green.

Miranda is somewhere, but not here, it being half term. But we're here,

and I'm afraid inevitably, we're going to reflect on the story that has overwhelmed all

other stories in recent days. And of course, that is the arrest of Prince Andrew. We're not going to talk much

about the arrest because frankly there isn't that much we can say and what has been possible

to say has been said many times in recent hours. What I wanted, I mean I'm a Republican,

I'm not that bothered about it, but I am. And both of you are royalists.

I want to look at where this leaves the institution, because clearly now the media will have

permission to examine all sorts of things where the Queen got the money to prevent Andrew from being sent out to

America to deal with the Virginia Giffray case, etc., etc. And so just in general terms,

do you think the institution itself is threatened by what a lot of people have been saying in

recent days is the biggest crisis or bigger than the abdication crisis in the 30s and so on?

Tim, what do you think?

Well, the thing is, with the news industry, the media industry, Steve, everything always has to be the biggest

crisis now, doesn't it? And so, well, actually, it is the biggest crisis. Perhaps we've become a

sort of a bit immune to that sort of rhetoric. I don't think we're in a position to know yet

how bigger crisis it is.

What I think matters about recent events is something you were talking about just before we started the podcast,

is the media now have much more of a licence to investigate what the royal family knew than they did

before. As we know, the media have been very deferential to the royal family. For many good

reasons, they can't usually answer back. But on this, they will, I think, ask more searching

questions, particularly of those people who worked with the Royals.

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