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The Town with Matthew Belloni

Is the Rotten Tomatoes Formula Fresh or Rotten?

The Town with Matthew Belloni

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.31.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Matt is joined by Rotten Tomatoes awards editor Jacqueline Coley to reveal how the Rotten Tomatoes rating system works, the reasoning behind its binary grading system, whether the system favors certain movies, why the Tomatometer scores have increased over the past 10 years, and why Rotten Tomatoes is so popular in the current online movie criticism landscape (02:39). Matt finishes the show with an opening weekend box office prediction for ‘Him’ and ‘A Big Bold Beautiful Journey’ (31:38). For a 20 percent discount on Matt’s Hollywood insider newsletter, ‘What I’m Hearing ...,’ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠click here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Email us your thoughts! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠thetown@spotify.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Host: Matt Belloni Guest: Jacqueline Coley Producers: Craig Horlbeck and Jessie Lopez Theme Song: Devon Renaldo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey, it's Danny Kelly and it's officially fantasy football season, which means the ringer fantasy football show is back with the latest news from around the NFL and everything you need to get ready for the fantasy football season.

0:11.0

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0:18.0

It is Wednesday, September 17th.

0:21.5

A generation ago, if I asked you who is the most influential, critical voice in movies?

0:26.4

Probably say, Siskel and Ebert, A.O. Scott at the New York Times, maybe Ken Choran at the L.A. Times.

0:32.2

They could really help movies they liked.

0:34.2

And the dreaded thumbs way down would be a death penalty for a certain

0:37.8

kind of movie. Today, no critic really matters, not really. The internet and social media has

0:43.8

unleashed a torrent of opinions on movies and TV and everything else, even podcasts. And in place

0:49.5

of individual critics, the single most influential force in movie criticism is now Rotten Tomatoes,

0:56.1

the aggregation site that deems good movies certified fresh via their critics' score.

1:01.8

But Rotten Tomatoes is kind of controversial in Hollywood.

1:05.0

Filmmakers hate it because it's binary.

1:07.0

It deems each review either positive or negative, not allowing much room for nuances like its rival, Metacritic does, when assigning a numbered score.

1:16.2

And increasingly, there are a whole bunch of random voices included amongst those more established critics.

1:22.1

Rotten Tomatoes, which most people don't know, is actually owned by NBC Universal with an investment from Warner Brothers.

1:28.0

It's actually part of the new spinoff company called Versant that's happening.

1:31.8

They say that they broadened out the pool of critics to address criticism that the site

1:36.0

was too elitist, to white, to mail, etc.

1:39.1

But as I wrote in my Puck newsletter a couple of weeks ago, the result has been that

1:43.5

the tomato meter scores

1:45.0

have gone up about 13% over the past decade. Yes, great inflation on rotten tomatoes.

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