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Is the role of the CISO adding to the confusion? [CISOP]

CyberWire Daily

N2K Networks, Inc.

Tech News, Daily News, News, Technology

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 13 March 2026

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Show Notes: As cybersecurity has matured, the field has become more formalized within businesses with CISOs leading the way. However, despite the value of the CISO and its widespread adoption, the role has continued to lose agency with other board members. In this episode of CISO Perspectives, host ⁠Kim Jones⁠ sits down with Patty Ryan, the CISO at QuidelOrtho, to assess the value of the role. Throughout the conversation, Patty and Kim will discuss the challenges facing CISOs, why the role has lost its agency, and what can be done to reverse the current trajectory. Want more CISO Perspectives?: Check out a companion ⁠⁠blog post⁠⁠ by our very own Ethan Cook, where he breaks down key insights, shares behind-the-scenes context, and highlights research that complements this episode. It’s the perfect follow-up if you’re curious about the cyber talent crunch and how we can reshape the ecosystem for future professionals. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:09.5

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0:23.1

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0:25.1

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0:28.0

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0:30.5

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0:36.1

of managing an endless proliferation of vendors and tools.

0:40.3

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0:51.6

Go to meter.com slash CISOP today to learn more and book your demo.

0:57.5

That's M-E-T-E-R.com slash C-I-S-O-P.

1:06.8

Welcome back to C-O Perspectives.

1:11.6

I'm Kim Jones, and I'm thrilled that you're here for this season's journey.

1:17.2

Throughout the season, we've been taking the deep conversations out of the conference,

1:21.8

or more realistically, the conference bar, and have begun tackling complex issues from

1:26.7

every conceivable angle.

1:31.0

As we continue our inaugural season, we're examining the challenges surrounding the cyber

1:35.9

talent ecosystem.

1:37.8

Today we explore the question, is the role of the CSO adding to the confusion?

1:43.7

Let's get into it. My first in-house gig as a civilian, after 10-plus years in Army intelligence and five years as an consultant, was as chief information security officer for a financial

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