This is the Hidden Killers podcast with Tony Brewski and continuing coverage of the case against Karen Reed.

That indeed it is. And we are joined by Bob Mata, defense attorney and host of the podcast Defense Diaries.

You guys have been streaming the trial every single day. I've been tuning in and out between doing things over here.

And my goodness, we, as we're recording this,

we're pretty close to the end of week two here and about to enter day eight.

And it feels like we've already been doing this for like 20-some days.

Really does.

Why is that?

This is like a, it's one we've all been kind of like anticipating for a while.

Maybe that's why.

Now we're like watching every inch of the damn thing.

Okay.

So here we are this far in. We still have the prosecution presenting their case.

And it's been interesting. Cross has been interesting. Just the presentation from the prosecution,

I think, has been really interesting. Let's just start there with the prosecution and how you think

they're doing thus far getting their case across. Yeah, I think Brennan's doing a much, much better job

than Lally did in terms of just presentation alone. They were incorporating the clips of

Karen's inconsistent statements right from the get.

He's plugging him in like it's, you know, a made-for-TV movie, you know, he gets to...

It's like madlibs.

Yeah, it's unusual. I've never seen it done that way.

But it's certainly effective, you know, I mean, he can really play a clip.

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