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Welcome to the commentary magazine Daily podcast today is Friday April 3, 2020. I'm John

Poghwar. It's the editor of commentary magazine with me as always senior editor Abe Greenwald

Hi Abe. Hi John. Associate editor in O'Roughman. Hi Noah. Hi John. And senior writer Christine

Rosen. Hi Christine. Hi John. So I find myself once again in a condition of cognitive

dissonance and the cognitive dissonance is this which is that I believe reading very closely

into the statistics in New York City that there is some evidence of good news and that a

corner is being turned although when I say that that doesn't mean that there aren't going

to be horrific mortality totals next week and the week after and it doesn't mean that the

case load in the United States is going to drop merely that there is evidence that the

social distancing is working by the fact that hospitalization numbers are not increasing

from what I can tell from the tables and that suggests that the you know that the extreme

measures that have been taken are having an effect and that therefore they should really

start showing a positive trend in the other direction after the really tough couple of

weeks as the president said we're about to see so I there's no reason to feel good about

what might be coming but there is reason to feel good that the measures that we have

been told we need to take aren't are working in the in the long run.

Abe does that jive with what you've been sort of like what haunted by the stats does that

jive with what you're seeing? Yeah pretty much I mean even though I can waver back and forth

day to day that that does seem to be the case and we also haven't really seen the exponential

growth in deaths there was one day I think that that word that's seemed to have doubled

but that that hasn't continued to happen at all even though when that happens the news

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