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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Is the Military Turning Its Back on Trump?

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate Podcasts

News, Daily News, News Commentary

4.32.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 June 2020

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

In the past couple of weeks, multiple high ranking military members, active and retired, have spoken out against the Trump administration's use of force in Lafayette Square. Usually, military officers prefer to stay silent on political matters. Does this mark a sea change in the way the military deals with President Trump? Guest: Fred Kaplan, Slate’s War Stories Correspondent and the author of The Bomb.  Slate Plus members get bonus segments and ad-free podcast feeds. Sign up now. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Because of the pandemic, graduation at West Point was always going to be bizarre this year.

0:35.8

It's been bizarre everywhere.

0:39.4

Some schools of stage drive-through graduations, others have gone online.

0:44.1

But West Point was the only university that forced its graduates to return to campus,

0:49.6

quarantined themselves for two weeks, and then sit for a ceremony that none of their

0:54.2

friends or family could attend, all in order to watch a half-hour speech from the president.

1:01.2

The heads of the army had begged the president to look, don't do this.

1:09.2

Slate's Fred Kaplan watched the whole thing over the weekend.

1:12.4

The other academies they had virtual ceremonies were fine on doing that.

1:16.6

He insisted on it.

1:17.6

He'd never spoken at West Point before.

1:20.2

Clearly, he wanted, he wanted, the great.

1:23.8

Photo up.

1:27.9

So the West Point band played from behind Plexiglas, and nearly a thousand newly minted officers

1:35.2

sat on chair's position six feet apart.

1:37.9

Yeah, they walked in with masks and then they took them off.

1:42.0

I guess, out of respect to the president who doesn't like masks.

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