Is the LSAT Getting Harder? (Ep. 455)
Thinking LSAT
Nathan Fox and Ben Olson
4.8 • 868 Ratings
🗓️ 20 May 2024
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
LSAT scores are on the rise. The total number of applicants scoring 170 or higher has more than doubled since 2015. This week, Ben and Nathan weigh in on what’s driving this trend and whether LSAC might make the test more difficult in response. Later, the guys discuss how much time they spend reading RC passages. They advise listeners not to apply early decision. And they help a student move on from a disappointing April LSAT.
3:30 - June or August? - An anonymous listener who’s strong in Logic Games asks if they should take the test in June or wait until they’ve improved in LR and RC. Nathan and Ben caution listeners not to rush into law school with a mediocre LSAT score.
8:35 - Is the LSAT Getting Harder? - Will LSAC make the LSAT more difficult because of the increasing number of high scores? Ben and Nathan advise students to focus on fixing their current mistakes before worrying about hypotheticals.
14:28 - Accommodations - In the past decade, Nathan and Ben haven’t heard of LSAC denying accommodations to someone who needed them. But they have heard of LSAC granting extra time to people who don’t really need it.
27:29 - RC Timing - Ben and Nathan discuss how much time LSAT students should spend reading RC passages before moving on to the questions.
33:15 - Early Decision - The guys double down on their advice not to apply early decision. And they discuss why law school scholarships are nothing more than price discrimination.
50:58 - Bouncing Back from April - Listener Ella worries about “risking” another official attempt in August if she underperforms in June. Nathan and Ben encourage Ella to take the LSAT as many times as necessary and to treat the official test like any other practice test.
59:23 - Law School Doesn’t Prepare - Here’s some unsurprising news: Law school failed to prepare 45% of junior associates for practice.
1:03:01 - Word of the Week - “Their space-annihilating concupiscence seemed centered on mentholated smoke alone.”
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| 0:00.0 | I worry Ben that like us shedding light on these issues is only making the situation worse. |
| 0:06.0 | This seems like a clear example of how we've made the world worse. Hello and welcome to episode 455 of the Thinking Elsat Podcast. I'm Nathan Fox. With me is Ben Olson. We are the co-founders of |
| 0:24.3 | Elsat Demon.com and the Elsat Demon Daily podcast. You can be Elsat famous by |
| 0:29.2 | sharing news and asking questions on our website thinking Elsat.com if you would like to try a free |
| 0:36.2 | Elsat demon class we have one coming up on May 21st at 530 Eastern Time. |
| 0:45.4 | It's a cross training class. |
| 0:47.1 | For those of you who are good at the games |
| 0:49.8 | but want to get better at logical reasoning, It's a class from our man Eric who is an |
| 0:56.6 | excellent El-Sat teacher with us, producer of the podcast by the way. But Eric's going to |
| 1:02.4 | teach a class called Cross-training LG to LR. So if you're good at games and you're sad that they're going away with the June exam, but you want to learn how to use some of those same skills on logical reasoning. |
| 1:15.6 | That's the class for you. Go to Elsat demon.com forward slash free if you want to sign up for that. |
| 1:22.0 | Ben, anything on your agenda? if you want to sign up for that. |
| 1:29.0 | Ben, anything on your agenda before we just dive straight into the items that we've got in front of us here? |
| 1:33.4 | No except two and a half weeks until the games are gone. That is crazy. |
| 1:35.4 | I, yeah, I'm like laughing. |
| 1:37.1 | I'm looking at my whiteboard here on my wall |
| 1:39.0 | or your whiteboard that's behind you there. |
| 1:41.7 | And I guess we're gonna have to do some remodeling |
| 1:45.2 | of our home offices or offices |
| 1:48.2 | to account for the reality that these games are going away. |
| 1:54.2 | It's kind of sad. |
| 1:57.0 | Also, I kind of don't care. |
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