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All Russia is doing is using tools and technologies which we invented to try to mess with our minds.

And I think five years ago, well I know five years ago,

nobody would think that could work. You're listening to War College, a weekly podcast that brings you the stories from behind the front lines.

Here are your hosts. Matthew Galton. stories from behind the front lines.

Here are your hosts.

Matthew Gault and Jason Fields.

Hello and welcome to War College. I'm Matthew Gault.

Democracy around the world seems under siege.

Turkish President Wretched Tia Berep Erdogan consolidated power in an election held recently.

Earlier this year, Russia held its own ritualistic election.

Vladimir Putin won, of course. In the United States, an emboldened President Trump

called for an end to due process for illegal immigrants. So what's happening and

what's the source of this stuff?

We're joined today by Timothy Snyder.

Snyder is a professor at Yale and also a permanent fellow at the IW M Vienna. There he directs the project's Ukraine in European

dialogue and United Europe divided history. His book, The Road to Un Freedom, has just hit bookstore shelves. So thanks for joining us.

Yeah, my pleasure. Glad to be with you. Can we start at the very beginning. What do you mean by the road to unfreatum and how do you know that we're on it?

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