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Hello, I'm Matthew Price.

This is Beyond Today from BBC Radio 4, the podcast that asks one big question about one big story every day.

Today is I really defeated.

This morning in a refugee camp in Syria, one of the BBC's best reporters, Quentin Somerville, spoke to Shimim.

Now, her picture's been everywhere. In it she's sitting looking right at the

camera a black hijab framing her face. Shamima ran away from East London when she was

15 with two friends. They wanted to join IS, the group that called

itself the Islamic State. Shemaima is now 19 and she says she's had three children with her I.S husband.

Two of them have died, and one was born this weekend.

My first priority is my son obviously because I don't know whether he'll be taken away from me or they'll let me keep him or give him to my family while the UK decide what to do with me, you know, to put me in prison, to put me in de-radicalization course, I don't know. I don't actually know. The problem is I don't know I don't actually know the problem is I don't know what my

options are what what options I would be given now there's a bigger story here and we're going to

spend today and tomorrow on it.

Shamima Began is no longer with IS because the group has lost almost all the land it controlled.

At its peak, an area the size of Britain.

Donald Trump says IS has basically been defeated,

but is that true?

Quentin has risked his life to cover IS

and we wanted to find out from him if he thinks the group really is finished for good.

It's a story that can be told through a couple of coins Quinton was given in Syria.

We spoke to him on a satellite line from Iraq, which dropped out occasionally.

So there are two Islamic State coins. I mean, they're the real deal, Matthew. The Islamic State minted a whole range they wanted to be a proper country

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