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Wonder Cabinet

Is The Internet Built For Everyone?

Wonder Cabinet

Wonder Cabinet Productions

Society & Culture, Wonder, Philosophy, Ttbook, Knowledge, Interview

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2019

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

They say "don't feed the trolls" — but why do they get to own the web? Was it built for them, or for all of us? We look at who built the internet, how it became an at times toxic space for women, and how we might build online spaces that are more inclusive to all.

Guests:

Claire EvansZoë QuinnRoxane GaySara Wachter-BoettcherEmily Temple-Wood

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's to the best of our knowledge from PRX.

0:07.3

Back in the day, men invented computers, but it was women who figured out how to use them.

0:13.2

You are not overstating that in the slightest. Women absolutely invented programming as we know it today.

0:18.2

And yet the internet today often feels like a boys club with women paying the

0:23.0

price. I still think the internet is a net positive and it's given me just about everything good I've

0:29.7

had in my life too. So if that's the cost, then that's the cost. But I would rather it not be for

0:35.1

everybody else. Is the solution kinder, gentler users, or better platforms?

0:40.4

So I think what you see is that harassment is a product of both, you know, the people who are

0:45.2

doing the harassing and an underinvestment and lack of understanding from the platforms themselves.

0:50.4

I'm Anne Strange Champs, and today we'll talk about how to build an internet for everyone.

1:09.2

It's to the best of our knowledge. I'm Anne Strange Champs.

1:13.3

You know the Apple origin story with the two steves in the garage. You know the Facebook origin

1:19.3

story with Mark Zuckerberg in his dorm. But if you want to tell the internet origin story,

1:25.6

you have to talk about women.

1:28.8

It's hard to imagine now, but the very early internet had no browsers.

1:34.8

Claire Evans is the author of Broadband, the untold story of the women who made the internet.

1:41.3

The people who created the yellow pages, if you will, of the early internet,

1:45.0

there was a bunch of women working in this office called the Network Information Center,

1:49.0

or the Nick, at Stanford.

1:50.0

They basically were the Google of their day.

1:57.0

The head of this office was a woman named Elizabeth Finler.

2:03.7

And she was the person who answered the phone if you called the internet.

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