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Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Is the Green New Deal a Leftist Fantasy?

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

New York Times Opinion

New York Times, Journalism, News, Society & Culture, Ross Douthat

4.07.2K Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2019

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Is the Green New Deal a symbol of the future of the Democratic Party, or is it just socialism disguised as climate reform? Ross Douthat and Michelle Goldberg are joined by Times editorial board member Michelle Cottle to debate the new initiative and its viability in Congress. Then, David Leonhardt asks fellow columnist Roger Cohen and Steve Hilton, the former adviser to David Cameron, what should be done about Brexit. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument.

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0:00.0

I'm Michelle Goldberg.

0:01.2

I'm David Leonhardt.

0:02.4

I'm Ross Douthet, and this is the argument.

0:06.2

This week, disagree New Deal symbolizes the future of the Democratic Party,

0:11.3

or is it just leftist ovary?

0:13.3

You can't promise everything and expect to be taken seriously.

0:19.2

Then, the Brexit deadline is looming. What should England do?

0:23.1

David Britain is independent. I'm sorry to interject.

0:26.3

And finally, a recommendation.

0:28.4

The love child of Andrew Dice Clay and the little girl from Brave.

0:31.6

And that's actually kind of it.

0:38.1

The Green New Deal, the hot policy topic of the moment,

0:41.7

is a measure drafted by representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

0:46.2

and Senator Edward Markey that proposes a grand strategy

0:50.1

to combat climate change while creating jobs in the US.

0:53.2

What this really is is an organizing play.

0:55.8

It includes a 10-year commitment to convert 100% of the power demand in the US

1:00.8

to clean, renewable, zero emission energy sources,

1:04.7

to upgrade all existing buildings to meet energy efficiency requirements

1:09.2

and to expand high-speed rail.

1:11.6

It also includes a lot of other commitments to universal healthcare,

1:15.4

a living wage, even a job guarantee, that don't usually get described as green,

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