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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots. I'm James Cielan. I'm joined today by Katie Bulls and Kath hadn't of the Institute for Government.

Katie, where are we at on the Covid inquiry then?

So in the saga and it been away, but I did notice it seems to be what has dominated the recess period.

And ultimately in the battle between there's lots of little battles going on at the moment.

There seems to be Richie Cinec versus Boris Johnson on the Covid inquiry.

There's a cabinet office versus the official Covid inquiry.

We have a situation where the government seems to be suing its own inquiry and we're only I think early stages.

Often with these inquiries they talk about being rather soft or even pandering to the government.

I think it's safe to say that the moon music so far in this one suggests that has not fallen into this category.

But ultimately, as I think we talked about previously on the podcast, the cabinet office is launching a judicial review to try and stop having to hand over these.

Non-redacted what's that messages all around Boris Johnson's but this is about precedent.

So precedent not just in terms of other ministers who may have to do the same regard to the Covid inquiry but also more long term.

What this means for featuring queries.

Now what is quite interesting here is of course the cabinet office is doing this but Boris Johnson and his messages in this instance it concerns is effectively saying publish my messages.

And he has today said that he is very relaxed about publishing his messages.

He's written and say he will send to the inquiry his unredacted messages regardless.

But there is a slight catch because he is talking about unredacted messages really a year or so into the pandemic.

So we're not talking right now at least about probably the most important messages for the Covid inquiry of Boris Johnson.

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