Welcome to Misquoting Jesus with Bart Ehrman.

The only show, where a six-time New York Times bestselling author and world-renowned Bible scholar,

uncovers the many fascinating, little-known facts about the New Testament, the historical Jesus, and the rise of Christianity.

I'm your host, Megan Lewis. Let's

begin.

I'd like to welcome all of you to the special edition of the Miss Quoting Jesus podcast with me,

Bart Ehrman. Today we have a special episode where I will not be interviewed. I will be doing the interviewing.

I'm going to be interviewing my colleague at UNC, Chapel Hill, Hugo Mendez. The topic we're

going to be discussing is whether the Gospel of John in the New Testament should be considered

a forgery or not.

Before we get to the topic, Hugo is an expert on this. He's writing a book that deals with John

as well as first, second and third John, the three epistles later in the New Testament,

where he's dealing with the issue of who wrote them and can they be considered forgeries. In this episode,

we won't be dealing with first, second, and third John. In some ways, his views of those are

even more interesting than his views of John. But I want to stick with John because the gospel

of John is the one that I think most people read. Sometimes in my classes at Chapel Hill, when I mentioned First John, my students have no clue,

and they opened a John chapter one.

So I'll probably do an episode later on about the three Johanian epistles, but now we're

going to stick with the Gospel of John.

First, let me introduce Hugo.

I've known Hugo for a good bit of time,

probably since about 2015 or 16. He came to UNC doing a post-doctorate here in our department

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