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Is the fight against ISIS legal?

We the People

National Constitution Center

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4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 November 2017

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Bruce Ackerman and Chris Fonzone join National Constitution Center president and CEO Jeffrey Rosen to discuss a lawsuit challenging several congressional actions used to authorize United States military actions against ISIS and other terror groups.

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0:00.0

I'm Jeffrey Rosen, president and CEO of the National Constitution Center and welcome to We

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the People, a weekly show of constitutional debate.

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The National Constitution Center is the only

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institution in America chartered by Congress to disseminate information about

0:19.0

the US Constitution on a nonpartisan basis.

0:23.3

And today we're here to discuss Smith versus Trump.

0:27.4

This is a lawsuit filed in 2016 in the DC District Court on behalf of Captain Nathan Michael Smith, a US Army captain deployed in Kuwait.

0:37.0

The lawsuit argues that the president and his administration were violating the Constitution by conducting military

0:43.6

operations against ISIS in Iraq and Syria without obtaining

0:47.1

congressional authorization. The original plaintiff was President Obama. He has

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now been replaced by President Trump and in this important

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discussion we will talk about the constitutional arguments on both sides of this

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case. Joining us to discuss it are two of America's leading thinkers on national security law.

1:03.7

Bruce Ackerman is Sterling Professor of Law and Political Science at Yale Law School.

1:08.6

He is helping to represent Captain Smith in the Smith v. Trump case,

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and Chris Van Zone is former Deputy White House Council. Captain Smith in the Smith versus Trump case.

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And Chris Van Zone is former Deputy White House

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Council and National Security Council Legal

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Advisor under President Obama.

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He helped to defend the case while working

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for the Obama administration.

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Bruce, Chris, thank you so much for joining.

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