Is the Day of Reckoning Coming?
The Hartmann Report
Thom Hartmann
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🗓️ 2 January 2026
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
Social Security and Medicare aren’t abstract programs — they keep millions of Americans alive. Critics warn Trump-backed policies could force seniors and disabled Americans to delay or skip lifesaving care. We break down what’s changing, who’s at risk, and why this could become a public health emergency. Executive Director of Social Security Works, Alex Lawson joins Thom to break it down.
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| 1:15.9 | On the line with us, our buddy Alex Lawson, the president of Social Security Works, an occasional fill-in host on this program. |
| 1:22.6 | Social SecurityWorks.org, of course, is the website, A-Law-202 over on Blue Sky, our social security works. |
| 1:29.3 | org. Alex, welcome back to the program. So always glad to having you with us. I saw that Donald |
| 1:34.8 | Trump is trying to quietly shut down Social Security offices all over the country. What's the deal here? |
| 1:40.8 | Yeah, and Tom, you know this because we've spoken about it at length. There's nothing new |
| 1:45.3 | here. The only thing that happened is at the beginning of the administration, you know, they came in |
| 1:51.2 | like a bulldozer and they did more harm to the Social Security administration than in its |
| 1:56.6 | entire 90-year history. But they faced vicious pushback from us, from people across, you know, |
| 2:04.6 | outside of D.C., Republicans, independents, Democrats, just everybody hated the attacks on |
| 2:11.1 | Social Security because it affects people. People's benefits are being disrupted. They can't get |
| 2:16.9 | through to a human being if they |
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