Welcome to the conversationsations That Matter Podcast. I'm your host John Harris as always here.

It's a beautiful day in upstate New York. It is a cool day for the summer.

It's a weird thing we've been having. We've got

summers that are cool and winters that are warm and springs and falls that don't know what they are.

But I'm happy. We've had a few hot days and now I'm ready for some cool

weather so cool is for me is like you know 69 is cool now for me but but I don't

know what what it's like for Pastor Mathis.

We have Pastor Mathis joining the podcast for the first time from Colorado, Providence Church,

OPC Church there.

How's the weather in Denver right now? Very nice. It got a little hot, but it's been 70s and 80s.

Had a nice shower last night.

You know, if you were a red state, I would highly be be I would consider very strongly moving to Denver

Yeah, that's what everyone said 20 years ago not are all out here

Unfortunately, it's not a bunch of John Harris's it's everyone else I know I know and I don't know what happened

exactly I mean California happened but I remember you know as a kid watching the presidential

elections and it seemed like the Republicans carried Colorado up until what was it

Obama that that flipped yeah Colorado is kind of interesting we would vote

Republican one way and Democrat another on

president versus non president positions and whatnot but yeah Obama about flipped it

but since I came out of the military in early 90s, I came out here about 94, came back here to Colorado is where I grew up,

and that's when I discovered everyone in their moms trying to come to Colorado,

and apparently everyone in their mom from California for 25 years now.

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