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To the Point

Is ‘socialism’ dividing the Democrats

To the Point

KCRW

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4.4583 Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2018

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

From Bernie Sanders to Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez,“socialism” is having a hot summer. Is it the future of the Democratic Party or an easy Republican target? Prominent liberals and conservatives describe the history--and possible future--of a term loaded with many meanings in America’s political history.

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0:00.0

Hello again, I'm Orrin Alney.

0:07.0

Welcome to To the Point.

0:09.0

Socialism has a long and checkered history in American politics.

0:13.0

Two years ago, Bernie Sanders made it almost respectable with his challenge to Hillary Clinton.

0:18.0

Now, with just three months remaining in the midterm elections,

0:21.6

socialism has gotten a new lease on political life. Or is it a potential death kettle now for

0:28.2

the Democratic Party? That question arises after a stunning upset in a primary race for Congress

0:34.2

in New York City. Veteran Democrat Joe Crowley was defeated by 28-year-old

0:40.3

Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, a member of the Democratic Socialists of America. Here's what

0:47.1

Democratic socialism means to her. Well, I think what I want people to understand is that we live in a

0:53.8

society that is capable. We are capable of ensuring that we live in a society that is capable.

0:55.5

We are capable of ensuring that we have basic frameworks where people can be covered by health

1:02.0

insurance, can send their kids to college, where we can pursue a very bold action on climate

1:07.5

change and save our future, and that is part of a moral and ethical economy,

1:12.1

and that we can legislate from that value and where it is possible. I believe we are morally

1:16.9

obliged to pursue it. Okay, again, that is the woman that the chair of the Democratic Party

1:23.4

Tom Perez says is the wave of the future. Is that because of her socialist background or in spite of it?

1:30.6

Has Perez spoken too soon? Let's start with some history. Harold Meyerson is executive editor of the American prospect. He's been a columnist for the L.A. Times and the Washington Post. And he's a member of the Democratic Socialists of America.

1:44.5

Harold, great to have you with us.

1:45.7

Great to be here, Warren.

1:46.7

So what about this?

1:47.8

This goes back to at least 1912.

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