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Is Sleep Procrastination Messing With Your Health & Mindset? | Vanessa Hill, PhD

Good Life Project

Jonathan Fields / Acast

Education, Wellness, Self-improvement, Midlife, Health & Fitness, Intentional Living, Personal Growth, Living Well, How To

4.53.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

It’s getting late, you know you “should” go to bed. But you just can't…or won’t. You tell yourself, just one more episode, or a few more minutes of scrolling, or a little more work to sneak in. It seems innocuous, but what if it was actually causing a world of harm? To your health, relationships, state of mind, performance at work, and more?


Our guest is Vanessa Hill, PhD, a leading sleep scientist and Research Fellow at CQ University, who specializes in the science of bedtime procrastination. She is a Science Communication Fellow at the Museum of Science and an expert in how our digital habits shape our rest.


And today, we’re talking about:

  • The near-addictive quality of sleep procrastination, and the hidden reason for it
  • The surprising research showing why blue light might not be the sleep villain we’ve been told it is
  • Why your "night brain" finds it nearly impossible to “do the right thing, and get to bed”
  • The one habit that often matters more than the total minutes spent on your phone
  • Why common sleep advice often fails, and what to do instead


If you find yourself stuck in a cycle of late nights and tired mornings, you are not alone. Listen to this episode to discover a more compassionate, science-backed way to reclaim your rest and feel like yourself again.


You can find Vanessa at: Vanessa's Substack | InstagramEpisode Transcript


Next week, we're sharing a conversation with Elena Brower about the wisdom of emptiness and the art of showing up to your life completely.


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0:00.0

So have you ever found yourself on the couch at 10, 11, 12, 1 a.m., watching videos and how the

0:07.1

pyramids were built, even though you know you have to be up in three or four or five hours?

0:12.1

Or maybe scrolling on your phone, it's that strange moment where your brain says,

0:15.8

you quote, should go to bed, but some other part of you just isn't ready to let the day go.

0:21.9

We call this bedtime procrastination, and most of us carry a lot of guilt about it.

0:26.5

We feel like we kind of should be falling asleep or that we just lack the willpower to put

0:31.0

the phone down or stop watching TV. But what if the late night scrolling or watching is actually

0:36.8

a search for something deeper,

0:38.3

like a sense of agency or me time or meaning or identity that you just didn't get

0:43.7

during your busy workday?

0:45.5

Today we're looking at sleep through a very different lens.

0:48.7

We're moving away from the quote, sleep hacking, performance sport, and towards something

0:53.0

much more human.

0:55.3

And joining me is Vanessa Hill. She is a sleep scientist and research fellow at CQ University, who's dedicated

1:01.3

her career to studying why we delay sleep, what it actually does to us when we do it, and how we can

1:07.9

actually bridge the gap between our intentions and our behaviors.

1:11.7

We drop into why, quote, revenge bedtime procrastination is often a cry for help and autonomy.

1:17.5

We explore the intention behavior gap and why it's hardest to close at night.

1:22.5

We really think about a simple pattern interrupt to help you move towards bed without struggle

1:27.1

and why being consistent might actually be more important than being perfect with your devices.

1:32.5

And we bust a really huge myth about blue light and screens at bedtime.

1:38.4

I'm so excited to share this conversation with you. I'm Jonathan Fields and this is Good Life Project.

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