On Radio 4, the more you listen, the more you see.

Hello, I'm Brian Cox.

And I'm Robin Ince, and this is The Infinite Monkey Cage.

In this series, we're going to have a planet off.

I feel like Jupiter wins.

And after all of that, we're just going to chill out a bit.

We're talking about your bog standard.

Ice, not the fancy one.

Science with funny bits.

The new series of The Infinite Monkey Cage.

Listen on Radio 4 and BBC Sounds.

Hello and welcome to San Francisco and a special edition of TechTent, your weekly guide to all the hottest news and trends from the technology industry.

I'm Rory Kathleen Jones, and this week we're taking a journey down Silicon Valley, still the hottest place on earth for tech innovation.

Or is it? We'll travel from San Francisco to San Jose, 50 miles away. On the way, we'll ask people ranging from a

ride share driver to a games firm to a venture capitalist, whether this place is still

humming with excitement. We'll end up at the Californian radio station, KQED, where we'll ask

their tech correspondent to reflect on what we've found out.

Here's a flavor of what's coming up.

Silicon Valley has now expanded to eat the San Francisco Bay Area, all of it.

People who get $43 million a year tell drivers who earn less than minimum wage

that their business model doesn't work well

if they give minimum wage to their employees.

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