Is sewage the future of green aviation?
Short Wave
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🗓️ 17 June 2026
⏱️ 13 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to Shortwave from NPR. |
| 0:06.1 | Hey, Shire Waver, is Regina Barber here. |
| 0:07.8 | And Emily Kwong, and today we are taking to the skies on the wings of cooking oil. |
| 0:12.8 | Well, today, Flight 100 is flying from London to New York on sustainable fuel. |
| 0:18.2 | Okay, that's Richard Branson. |
| 0:19.7 | Yes. |
| 0:20.3 | Okay. |
| 0:20.5 | The co-founder of the Virgin Group. |
| 0:21.9 | Was this the first flight run entirely on alternative jet fuel? |
| 0:25.6 | Yes. |
| 0:26.4 | Virgin Atlantic in 2023 operated a flight powered by biofuel and a synthetic alternative made from plant sugars. |
| 0:32.4 | This flight was incredibly expensive, receiving up to 1 million British pounds from the UK government, all to |
| 0:39.1 | prove a scientific point that a plane can fully run on something other than jet fuel, which, as you |
| 0:44.7 | know, comes from fossil fuels. I love this, because what's getting us into the air now, |
| 0:49.3 | it's not great for a planet. No. At any given moment, there are thousands of planes in the air, and jet fuel is the only thing, energy dense enough and cheap enough to keep that industry aloft. |
| 1:00.9 | But the war in Iran has put a damper on those economics. |
| 1:04.7 | Ryan Spees, the managing director of sustainability for Alaska Airlines, is definitely feeling the pinch. |
| 1:09.7 | We were on track for a really, really great year, and fuel prices have, you know, put us back |
| 1:16.3 | hundreds of millions of dollars. |
| 1:17.6 | Right. |
| 1:18.0 | The Strait of Hormuz has been effectively closed for months. |
| 1:20.8 | So some airlines are running low on fuel. |
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