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Join Us in France Travel Podcast

Is Saint-Étienne France's Most Underrated City? PLUS: Tips for Learning French!

Join Us in France Travel Podcast

Annie Sargent

History, Places & Travel, Society & Culture

4.81.1K Ratings

🗓️ 25 January 2026

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Is Saint-Étienne France's Most Underrated City? PLUS: Tips for Learning French!

If you love discovering hidden gems in France, this episode is for you! Annie Sargent chats with Brooke Koss Cunningham, a French professor and passionate Francophile, about Saint-Étienne—a city most travelers overlook but absolutely shouldn't. Once known for its coal mines and heavy industry, Saint-Étienne has transformed into a vibrant hub of design, innovation, and affordability. Brooke shares why this working-class city, nestled between the Livradois-Forez and Parc du Pilat, is one of France's best-kept secrets.

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Saint-Étienne is cheap to visit, easy to explore, and packed with surprises. Brooke takes us to the Musée d'Art et d'Industrie, where you can see everything from historic bicycles to intricate ribbons—a hit with kids and adults alike. She raves about Weiss Chocolates, a local favorite where you can even take workshops, and the faisselle cheese, a fresh, creamy specialty you won't find outside of France. For outdoor lovers, the Gouffre d'Enfer offers thrilling zip-lining, while Saint-Victor-sur-Loire delivers stunning views of the Loire River without the tourist crowds.

But Saint-Étienne isn't just about sights—it's about experiencing real French life. Brooke explains how the city's tram system makes getting around a breeze, and why its strong local accent and gaga patois add to its authentic charm. She also shares practical tips for learning French, from immersing yourself in conversations to using resources like Radio France and the Alliance Française's Culturethèque. Whether you're a solo traveler, a family, or someone dreaming of moving to France, this city offers a welcoming, unpretentious vibe that's hard to find in bigger tourist hotspots.

After the chat, Annie dives into an exciting update: JR's 2026 art installation on Paris's Pont Neuf, turning the bridge into a 120-meter "cave" made of fabric. It's a must-see for anyone visiting Paris next summer!

Subscribe to Join Us in France to get more off-the-beaten-path stories, cultural deep dives, and travel tips that make exploring France even more rewarding. Whether you're planning a trip or just love armchair travel, this episode will inspire you to see France differently. Listen now and start dreaming about your next adventure! 🇫🇷✨

 

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0:00.0

This is Join us in France episode 582.

0:21.1

Bonjour, I'm Annie Sergeant and join us in France, episode 582. 582.

0:27.5

Bonjour, I'm Annie Sargent, and join us in France is the podcast where we take a conversational journey through the beauty, culture, and flavors of France.

0:31.6

Today, I bring you a conversation about a place most travelers overlook, St. Etienne.

0:37.4

My guest is French professor Brooke Kosk Cunningham, who knows the area well.

0:42.9

Together, we explore a working-class city shaped by coal mining, bicycles, and industry,

0:49.8

and now known for design and innovation.

0:53.5

And we wonder, is Saint-Etyen France's most underrated city?

0:58.7

We talk about museums kids actually enjoy, easy nature escapes, local food and chocolate,

1:05.8

and why St. Etienne may be one of the most affordable and authentic cities in France to visit or even live in.

1:13.1

This podcast runs on Chocolatine, coffee, and the generosity of listeners like you.

1:19.1

Whether you book an itinerary consult, take one of myself-guided GPS tours on the

1:24.6

VoiceMap app, in Paris only for now.

1:32.1

Join me for a day trip in my electric car around the southwest of France or support the show on Patreon.

1:34.7

You keep this whole adventure going and I'm deeply grateful.

1:38.6

If you'd like to support the podcast and skip the ads this year,

1:42.8

you'll find the link in the show notes.

1:45.4

All my tours and services are at join us in France.com for a slash boutique.

1:50.3

For the magazine part of the podcast, after my chat with Brooke today,

1:54.9

I'll discuss an art installation coming to Paris in June 2026.

2:02.4

Before we get started, a quick reminder that my website, join us in France.com, is there to

2:08.2

make your life easier.

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