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Welcome to the Athletic FC podcast with me, Ayur Akim Malori.

December is traditionally sacking season, but things feel a little different this season.

Have clubs become more patient?

All right, in with us today. we've got Jack Pittbrook.

We've also got Mark Critchley as well.

Jens, let's talk about managers.

So far this season, Jack, four managers have been sacked, and they are Nuno Espirito Santo

and Angi Postaloglu at Nottingham Forest, Graham Potter at West Ham, and also Bicto Pereira at Wolves.

In general, and this is going to be

the basis of this conversation, at what point does a manager's position become untenable?

Well, there's a few things. I think one is if the fans are clearly not having the manager.

I think we saw that with Forest fans and angioplostoclou,

not with forest fans and nuno, but with forest fans and angiostercoglu, that was a clear example that

the forest fans were not having the manager. And at that point, I think when it gets that toxic,

the manager has to go. Sometimes it can be the relationship between the manager and the owner. So when Nuno made some

comments about his relationship with Maranakis at the start of the season, the Nottingham Forest

owner, and I think after, he wasn't even especially critical, but I think when you start raising

that kind of topic in public, like it's pretty obvious what's going to happen

down the line. So that's the factor as well. And I guess the other one is, if it just becomes

clear that the manager can no longer get anything out of the players, you know, whether it's

Vito Pereira at Wolves, they were clearly just going nowhere. Graham Potter at West Ham,

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