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The Briefing Room

Is Russia under pressure from Ukraine?

The Briefing Room

BBC

News, News Commentary

4.8731 Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2026

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

The war between Russia and Ukraine has shifted closer to Moscow. In the past week Ukraine has sent drones, made by Ukraine, to Moscow. While many were intercepted, 3 people died when an apartment block was hit. For many Russians the war - or special military operation as President Putin calls it - has been far away. But not any longer. At the same time though, Russia continues to hit cities across Ukraine and civilians continue to die. David Aaronovitch and his guests discuss whether Putin is under greater pressure now and whether the trajectory of this conflict has changed with the use of drone-warfare?

Guests: Steve Rosenberg, BBC Russia Editor Christopher Miller, Ukraine Correspondent, The Financial Times Angela Stent, Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and former US National Intelligence Officer for Russia and Eurasia

Presenter: David Aaronovitch Producers: Caroline Bayley and Kirsteen Knight Production Co-ordinator: Maria Ogundele Sound Engineer: James Beard Editor: Richard Vadon

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, podcasts.

0:09.6

We're entering the fifth summer of the war that began when Russia launched its full-scale invasion of Ukraine,

0:15.2

and the balance of analytical opinion has shifted from emphasizing Ukraine's difficulties

0:20.4

to looking at Russia's.

0:22.7

Its progress on the battlefield is both bloody and glacial.

0:26.7

Ukrainian drones strike Moscow. There's talk of weakening resolve.

0:31.9

That would be great news for Ukraine's allies, including Britain, but what do the experts make of it?

0:38.0

Step into the briefing room and together we'll find out.

0:46.4

To help us with this one, I'm joined by the BBC's Russia editor, Steve Rosenberg.

0:51.6

The Financial Times, Ukraine correspondent and author of The War Came to Us, Life and Death

0:56.4

in Ukraine, Christopher Miller, and Angela Stent, who's senior fellow at the American Enterprise

1:02.0

Institute and a former US National Intelligence Officer for Russia and Eurasia.

1:06.8

First of all, let's look at the situation in Russia.

1:10.6

Steve Rosenberg, what was the reaction in Moscow to last weekend's drone attack?

1:15.0

It wasn't the first time that drones had come close to Moscow or into Moscow,

1:19.9

but this particular attack was a large one and certainly did make an impression on people I spoke to.

1:27.4

We went to one apartment block just on the edge of Moscow that had got hit by a drone,

1:32.3

and there was a large crowd of people standing outside,

1:35.3

looking up at the damage the drone had done.

1:38.3

Some people said to me, we're actually quite frightened,

1:41.3

because now we realised that in the middle of the night, a drone could hit our apartment block. And there was this sense that people in and around Moscow

1:49.3

have realized that the front line in this war could suddenly appear in their living room.

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