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NO SUCH THING

Is recycling a complete scam? (PART 2)

NO SUCH THING

iHeartPodcasts and Kaleidoscope

Society & Culture, Comedy, News, News Commentary

4.6609 Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2026

⏱️ 35 minutes

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Summary

Growing up, we were told to always recycle plastic to save the planet. But does recycling actually do anything? In this special two-part investigation, we explore the history of recycling, the rise of “disposable” plastics, and find out how effective recycling actually is. 

In part one (with the help of Nayeema Raza, host of  Smart Girl Dumb Questions), we hear from Davis Allen, PhD, Senior Investigative Researcher at the Center for Climate Integrity, who alleges that plastic recycling is a deceptive story engineered by fossil fuel and petrochemical companies to make us feel guilty for using the very plastics they profit from. Davis says recycling is a distraction from the real problem. 

Listen to part one: Apple, Spotify, Others

In part two, we visit a recycling center and speak to Kara Napolitano, Education Director at Circular Services to find out how recycling actually works, learn the amount of bottles that actually make it to the recycling facility, and reckon with our own individual impact to determine if recycling is a viable solution to our climate crisis or simply a feel-good placebo in an ever-expanding consumer culture. 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

All right, folks, this is part two of our show on recycling.

0:02.7

So if you haven't heard part one yet, stop what you're doing and click into part one, then come back here.

0:08.4

Okay?

0:09.4

All right.

0:10.3

On with the show.

0:25.6

I'm Annie. I'm Noah. This is Devon.

0:26.6

And this is No Such Thing, the show where we settle our dumb arguments and yours by actually doing the research.

0:31.6

Previously on No Such Thing, is recycling a scam?

0:35.6

We heard from Davis Allen from the Center for Climate

0:38.6

Integrity, who walked us through the history of plastic recycling and told us why research shows

0:43.4

recycling just isn't worth the investment when you look at the environmental costs involved

0:47.4

and the low percentage of plastic that actually gets recycled. The recycling thing is a distraction.

0:53.3

It's not anything to do with the actual problem.

0:58.3

Time jump. It's now a few weeks later.

1:00.8

We were pretty shocked by what Davis told us, but us here at NSTHQ thought we had to hear from the pro-recycling side.

1:07.5

So Devin and I went to a recycling center here in Brooklyn to see what's happening to my Coke bottles.

1:14.9

There's no such thing.

1:16.8

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1:19.6

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1:22.7

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1:25.5

No such thing.

1:31.3

This is an I-hart podcast.

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