Welcome back to the podcast.

This is an update episode with three guests.

The first guest up is my friend Liz.

And Liz and I go way back when she sent me an email that I was really never expecting

from doing the podcast about how it was impacting her life and were really connected and was thoughtful.

And I was thinking to myself back then, my goodness, like maybe that's... about how it was impacting her life and we're really connected and was thoughtful.

And I was thinking to myself back then, my goodness, like maybe this is really helping people.

And you don't know that when you start something that is going to have that effect.

So I was so happy that we got to reconnect, but this episode got dropped in the archive for a little bit. So it's a little bit older of an update, but it's still really powerful to see how far that she has come. It is really,

really cool. And then I talk with John. And interesting how John and I collided. John is Melissa's

husband. And she, Melissa went on the trip in Toronto, and she was

telling me a little bit about John and how he had quit drinking and how he didn't identify

as having a problem. And I was like, is he experiencing benefits from it? And I was just really

curious to see how that would, how that played out for him

and sort of his motivation to do it and how it was super supportive for her. So I talked to John

a little bit too on what his experience has been. And then we wrap up this three guest episode

with my good buddy, Justin, who is coming up on seven years. And he was on the podcast

many, many moons ago, but it's just done incredible work. And we've been furthering our

friendship and stuff virtually over the year. So really cool. Thank you guys, as always,

for listening. And if you're looking for a place to connect with other people that are on the same

journey, I'm telling you things right now are on fire in the sober motivation community.

So much support, so much kindness, so much empathy, so many people there to help you,

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