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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the spectator's daily politics podcast.

I'm Katie Balls, and I'm joined by James Seythe and Isabel Hardman.

Now, when it comes to the reopening,

international travel has often been the aspect

which has come under the most restrictions,

but there's signs that is now changing.

James, what's the government's current thinking

when it comes to trips abroad?

So the government's current thinking is to allow double vaccinated people who are coming

from the EU or the United States into the UK without quarantining.

This would obviously facilitate both more business travel and more tourism.

And I think the decision to do this is a sign that the government is

moving away from the idea that quite associated with the former health secretary, Matt Hancock,

of having an almost Australian-style border policy. It is essentially saying fully vaccinated

people from the EU and the US really don't pose any risk so they can come here.

We'll try and get international travel going. I think the interesting thing is that the US is not

releasing its restrictions on travellers from either the EU or the UK. So this isn't going to be

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