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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Is Putin taking Donald Trump for a ride?

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Podmasters

News, Government, Politics, Society & Culture

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 18 February 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump acts as though he’s a master Putin-whisperer – but is he simply just being played by the Russian leader? Ian Garner, a historian focused on Russian propaganda and culture, and the author of Z Generation: Into the Heart of Russia's Fascist Youth, joins Chris Jones to discuss the relationship between these two world leaders, their latest discussions and what we can read from their latest moves.  We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to Indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit.   www.patreon.com/bunkercast     Written and presented by Chris Jones. Audio production: Robin Leeburn. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Music by Kenny Dickinson. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hello and welcome to The Bunker. Your Need need to know on news and politics five days a week.

1:12.5

I'm Chris Jones.

1:13.6

Much has been wondered about the fate of Ukraine since Donald Trump ascended to the White House for the second time.

1:19.7

And after a reported lengthy and productive phone call between him and Russian President Vladimir Putin,

1:25.7

we may now have a glimpse of what is around the corner.

1:28.8

Some say Trump's actions have served only to betray Ukraine. Is that true? And should we be fearful

1:34.0

of a Trump-Putton friendship? Well, joining me now in the bunker to discuss all of this is Dr. Ian

1:39.5

Garn, a historian of Russian culture and propaganda, and author of Z Z-generation into the heart of Russia's

1:45.4

fascist youth. Ian, welcome back to the bunker. Thanks for having me back. Let's get straight into

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